in life, when the buck is moving, air in his lungs, and approaching your stand, a 118 will look like a 140, so be careful. I got it wrong. This buck ended up netting 125 1/8 inches. Oh, she's a wreck. very nice deer guys, and thanks for posting them. Shawn. A buck is a male deer, and in hunting terminology, the points on a buck are the individual tines of the buck's antlers. Add to Likebox #87914565 - White-tailed buck in the forest. His estimated body weight appears to be about the same as the previous year. haha. The banjo is a stringed instrument with a thin membrane stretched over a frame or cavity to form a resonator. Yes, it CAN happen. so many threads about "guess this score" that are just way off base with the estimates. you should ask for 130 inch trail camera pictures, this will help you alot. Also remember that a buck's rack typically looks a lot bigger from the rear. As this photo essay shows, you never know what a whitetail buck’s antler potential will be until it reaches full maturity, which usually doesn’t occur until a buck is 6 to 7 years old. Buck is the strongest, most powerful and most fearless sled dog in all of the Klondike in Jack London's novel, Call of the Wild.A part-St. Bernard and part-Scottish shepherd, Buck … But, I had to agree to shoot a buck in the 143 7/8" range.......Does anyone have a pic of one exactly that size? In the fourth picture, the buck has a very clear break between its neck and brisket. Community rubs are made in places like staging areas or the intersection of major trails where large numbers of bucks pass and add their scent, typically on 3 to 6 inch trees. Is it pretty easy to tell a 130 incher? ©2021 Jordan Outdoor Enterprises, Ltd. All rights reserved. Its the first time I've ever done one. Sometimes it's better to shoot a 115 - 120" 4.5yr old than a 125" 2.5 yr old. Nearly all bucks in New York with 4 points or less are only 1.5 years old. When this buck was 9 1/2, he took a terrible beating from a younger, mature buck and he was never the same again. Reactions: TCounty Hunter. These “over the hill” bucks represent less than one tenth of one percent of the antlered bucks killed in Virginia in the last five years. Since he was the dominant buck, throughout the autumn months when he was 4 1/2 to 8 1/2, he was a scraping and rubbing machine. His shoulders and hams aren’t fully developed. This is the case with herds that are heavily weighted toward does. 179 likes. where is your lease? Genetics and Antler Potential Antler size is determined by a deer's age, nutrition and genetics. Learn the Differences between Yearling and Older Bucks. that's a nearly perfect buck in my opinion, I like 6 point better though, pretty looking but not so old to be nearly impossible to eat. Would love to know how this lease worked out anyway. The average buck, with his ears in an alert position, has an ear tip-to-tip spread of 16 inches. In that case, you divide the main beam into thirds from the G2. His estimated live weight is still in the 250- to 260-pound range. A point is each tine on the antler, including the brow tine, which sticks straight up near the base of the antlers. Does may mate with more than one buck and go back into estrus within a month if they did not become pregnant. See all condition definitions- opens in a new window or tab... Read moreabout the condition The photos that accompany this essay help to illustrate and refute the old claim of “once a spike, always a spike.”, December 31, 2020 | The Realblog with Stephanie Mallory. Dec 1, 2020 #9 Bfields Member. “Its main beams came out and just exploded, sort of like a star burst. Here is a 8pt my brother shot when it was still alive. Waterloo, I posted my pic. Even at 400 yards his weight was more than evident. Reply. Many hunters keep antlers from their kills as a trophy, prizing especially large “racks,” as they are called. I had the privilege of photographing this buck his entire life. Gross is the total amount of antler before taking off for lack of perfection. He is a basic 9-pointer, but in spite of having two fewer points, his antlers are slightly larger than the previous year - 165 inches. Never ground checked this one but it’s the only 130” I have on my phone. In the Hill Country and much of the rest of the state, deer antlers improve up to about age 6 ½, after which the antlers decrease in quality. Inside spread of the main beams: If his main beam appears to be three inches outside the ear tip on each side, then by adding six to 16 we find that he has a 22-inch spread. Unofficial net score, 129" and some change. The thickness of his main beam shows him to be older than 1.5. I would match your "good money" for video of someone snoopy-punching roger in the suckhole. Am I okay as long as it grosses 130? 'It's almost like talking about two different species,' he explains. Got a tall 6 point today. Though he made many scrapes and rubs when he was 2 1/2 and 3 1/2, he exhibited all the common behaviors one would expect of a subordinate buck. 134" gross, 129" net. I know the membership here has killed a lot of deer over the years and I'd like to ask a small favor. hes a clean 8 and i thought for sure he was way more than that when I shot but it is true an eight has to be exceptional to be over 130. Others are full of meat but with smaller girths. A buck with two standing normal points per side is an 8 - pointer , one with three standing points is a 10- pointer , and so on. This one grossed 153 even and netted 149 5/8. January 6, 2021 | Timber 2 Table Wild Game Recipes, December 30, 2020 | Timber 2 Table Wild Game Recipes. I know a shortcut. Some will even go from a typical buck to a non-typical. Killed a 135 inch 9 pt and 5-6 between 115-121 gross. An abnormal point must be at least one inch in length. I figure if everyone else is holding out for the 130 or better the hunting should be pretty cool. The scrotal circumference of a whitetail buck is actually small in relation to his body size when compared to other species such as elk or domesticated cattle. however i do agree i will never let an 8pt like that walk ever. With each additional year of age a buck's neck gets larger and connects lower on his chest until at 5.5 to 6.5 years of age the necks appears to … Dec 1, 2020 ... What county did that buck come from . The date in this photo is especially significant to look at. Calculating the final score of a whitetail buck Gross score of a whitetail buck Right off the bat an eight as compared to a 10 looses 2 tine measurements, 2 mass measurements and typically an 8 pt has shorter main beams than a 10 pt. Quality made, life-time guaranteed knives for the outdoors, hunting, fishing, survival and work. The gestation period is about 190–200 days, with fawns born in the spring. I’d say he’s within a few inches of 130. official measured-130 & change gross, 125 1/8 NET. Ultimately, they resemble a doe with antlers. Thread is over 7 years old and still going. For example some people would call the deer a 2x3. You guys are right 4 mass measurements. I’ve also had the unique opportunity of raising whitetails and studying their behavior for a quarter century. So for instance, a buck comes in and you can see a 7" G2, a 6" G3 and a 3" G4. "Follow me. The back of the deer will also slope at a sharp downward grade from the rump to the shoulder. Rather than set a minimum score or amount of points...maybe you could suggest that the landowner sets a general age requirement instead...such as mature bucks only (3.5yrs and older)?! These traits are found in all age classes and are maintained by the individual buck throughout his life. Probably not a big reason to show the LO this thread since this went down 4 yrs ago. His ears will measures six inches from the base to the tip. An eight point buck could be 2 years old. 5 points mworcester Asked 11.29.2019. This buck was a 4.5 year old. I went to contribute to this thread and realized I had already done so 7 years ago lol. #115492706 - A whitetail deer buck stands in the open with the morning sun.. He grosses over 165"s and has 7.25" base on left antler and over 6" base on right antler. 7+6+3=16. His estimated body weight is 250 pounds. There are lots of 8 pt. I guess I need to learn how to field judge antlers. Unlike handguns and rifles which have lands-and-grooves cut on the inside of their barrels, shotguns have a smooth bore. I know you worked hard for him and thats a stud! Look for the main beams to extend to the nose. Most experienced hunters will let an immature ten point walk and harvest a mature eight-point or even a mature 5 or six point. Lands-and-grooves cause specific identifying features (rifling) on projectiles as they pass along the barrel. of captive deer, a single buck has been known to breed more than 40 does. Genetics and Antler Potential BC. The "rut" or mating season usually begins in the fall as does go into estrus for a period of a few days and males become more aggressive, competing for mates. Just remember that tine length will really make the difference. For this reference point, a buck’s eye is around 4 inches in circumference. He just wants 130 class which means gross. Log in. Age: 5½ Years Old. “It was what I call a nuclear waste buck,” he said. Once he reached 4 1/2, his large antlers, body size and aggressive attitude served notice to every buck in his core area. Understand. Bill from asks, i recently found a shed from a 2.5 year old 6 point, i think i have his shed from last year but last year as a 1.5 he was an 8 point, the antlers look identical other than the extra point on the 1.5 shed, do you think a buck would be a 8 point as a yearling and drop to a 6 point … in the east it is 4x4 eaquals 8 point total so you can have a 12 point white tail or in the west it would be called a 6 point or a 6x6. A buck-boost is a transformer … A 130" deer still looks pretty big to me. The guy I leased the property from tells me just be patient and I will see them. If, without its antlers, it looks like … Roger, this one is 145" gross, 143 6/8" net Waterlooboy, remember if he has at least 10 points and any kind of tine length I think you'll make your 130", I'm no trophy hunter,the one pictured is my biggest and only one I ever had measured, so this info is coming from someone not very experienced in the large antler category, just got lucky once. It's the time of year males get to show off their antlers, and as a result I've had several discussions about how many "points" a buck has. 8 point – In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. He is 143 2/8 Net. Mathematics. Could be called 5 point. If it's a trophy buck that you truly desire you will take as long as it takes to achieve your goal. Length of Seventh Point, If Present h-1. Antler development improves with age up to a point. Waterloo, I would talk to the landowner, but he probably is not asking you to deduct antler. Add the lengths of the G2, G3 and G4 (if present) multiply by 2 and add 95. When I was a young man in the 1960s, many researchers felt that yearling spike bucks were genetically inferior, at least from an antler standpoint. You can always tell a 130 incher......but you can't tell him much. Too many people seem to get tripped up with scoring deer on the hoof (myself included). Seriously these are some nice bucks compared to where I'm used to hunting. Thanks for all the pics by the way. Illustration by Steve Sanford Hardly any hunter would criticize you for shooting a 3 1⁄2-year-old buck. An older buck equals heavier antlers, but not always additional points. The antlers at the widest point is 12 inches. Time has a way of changing people’s minds and we now know that it’s extremely difficult to tell a buck’s antler potential by the kind of antlers it grew as a yearling. Now he is a 164-inch 11-pointer with an estimated body weight of about 240 pounds. Image of brown, searching, wary - 3284843 RE: The buck’s front legs appear short for this deer, another good sign of an older deer. I took this photo two weeks before he died, just before the first snow fall in November. From my experience, the overwhelming odds are that a whitetail buck that does not have a 10 point main-frame by 4 1/2 years of age will not develop one in subsequent years. Even though some bucks would challenge him, he was clearly the dominant buck in his core area from 4 1/2 to 8 1/2 years of age. A little over 135 in this picture before he broke his brow tines. The girth method does not take this into consideration. You also cannot see two of his points in the pic because of the angle. It looks like net is always less than gross. His antlers are now 143 inches and his estimated live weight is barely 200 pounds. Same rack configuration. The pic submitted by PSUhoss is a great example of what Knife2sharp was trying to say...PSU's buck is wide and high but is "just over 130" because it is an 8 point...great buck PSU!! By late summer, the antlers have fully hardened. Grossed 137. “Once a spike, always a spike.” Hardly. Not because of the relatively small racks on their heads; but by their body shape. Some are on their feet and move a lot during a 24-hour period, and some don’t. “About half the bucks you see this year will be unrecognizable next year based on antler characteristics. His antlers have a gross score of 122-inches (B&C). Wow, I bet they are related Shawn, assuming it's from the same area. He did by no means look like one of those small bucks with just big racks. The Front passenger door will not open, and this was at 35 MPH!! And a "really nice" eight-point buck that Makayla might have considered if she hadn't already taken bucks with larger antlers. My journey as a hunter, photographer and researcher has taught me a few things about the whitetail. Just because they are a 10 doesnt mean they will hit the 130 mark. I'd shoot them any day of the week. Buck Euchre, also known as Cut-throat Euchre or Dirty Clubs, is a North American Euchre variation in which everyone plays for themselves. Where I hunt in Ne most 3.5 year olds that are 8 pointers are going to be around the mid 120's. From my experience, the overwhelming odds are that a whitetail buck that does not have a 10 point main-frame by 4 1/2 years of age will not develop one in subsequent years. You need some mass and good tine length to make it there! Probably kind of risky the way I entered into it. MATURE is the buzzword today. Very cool. These three items are huge on how large a buck's rack can get. Look for a slim torso leading up to a slender neck to confirm their yearling status. From this point on he shied away from other mature bucks and became very reclusive. Used: An item that has been used previously. I bet the owner does no what a true 130 looks like. These can be prime spots to simply tag out with an average buck. Bucks typically begin growing antlers in early April in response to the increased sunlight. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. He is still a 4x5 and his antlers are 166 inches. i used it for a larger set of horns that i have becouse he was huge. Middle one is 141 gross and 129 6/8 net. the best way to judge a 130 buck is with your bow still hanging on the hook. However, some yearlings with ample food supplies are able to grow impressive eight-point racks. The usual 12-point buck would have six tines in a symmetrical pattern on each antler. You can use that for comparison on tine length. For an 8 the spread should be past the ear tips, and G2's and G3's should all be over 8", and the brow tines atleast 6". What does an 8 point buck look like? He is now a clean 5x5 with 160-inch antlers. This buck grossed 130 5/8". if it is in your hand, your estimate will certainly be off. 11 1/2: In human terms, the buck is now an old man. ok far right netted 138 3/8 second in from right netted 144 7/8. If it appears like a doe, the buck is likely a two year old. At 1½ years, bucks are all legs. Middle of shoulders to the middle of the head 22 inches. Thanks again. Not many 8 pt. However, other features like this buck’s shoulders and mid section appear to be rather large. The width from the outer point to the other was also very notable. He stated that I needed to account for shrinkage and discrepencies among various scoring officials, too. Please look at all pictures there is a small place on the back of the neck that looks like it is coming unglued. The buck will hang here with the estrous doe for up to 48 hours. By late summer, the antlers have fully hardened. However, his 85-inch, 8-point antlers were spindly and more typical of what a yearling’s antlers might look like in the rich farm-belt of the Midwest. Dr. Kroll says that the differences in a 3 1/2-year-old buck and a 4 1/2-year-old buck are startling. At this point, both muscular and skeletal growth is definitely complete. Traditional Italian Lasagna with Ground Elk Meat Sauce, Spinach, Mushroom, and Italian Sausage Stuffed Elk Heart, 10 Trees That Will Hold Deer on Your Hunting Property, 12 Reasons Why Your Venison Tastes Like Hell, Wisconsin Man Rescues Doe by Pushing Her Across Frozen Reservoir. After that his antler size will begin to decline. Log in. As in games of the Rams group, there is a penalty for any individual who wins no tricks. A 3.5 year old. I posted in this thread even though it was 4 years old above because before I went out hunting this year I was looking at it and I found it very helpful. Remember most size restrictions are based on gross scoring not net, so you have some lee way, but as others have said, to make it with an 8pt would be 1 of the "binoculars not needed" deer but any decent 10pt should make it in most mid western areas. ... We have also been educated to what a mature buck looks like. Knive hit a major point in that a 10 pointer will score 130 way quicker than an 8. Using the provided field-aging guide, a buck this will most likely look balanced, but could tip forward on the scale. Shawn, [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/aJx35l6.png[/IMG], not sure as I never scored him but the taxidermist thought around 130", My biggest buck to date grossed 152" but will prob net in the 130's...It's already been said, I too think nets are for fishing! A buck does not reach his maximum antler potential until he is 4-1/2 to 7-1/2 years of age. A six … Bucks with their first set of antlers are the easiest to age. Wow! How to use buck in a sentence. What does 2×+3y=6 look like if it was plotted as a point on a graf Get the answers you need, now! Waterloo: I would show the LO this thread and pics and see if this is what he was thinking or more in the 120" range. A "10-point buck" describes the size of a deer's antlers, not its height and weight. Some will call it a 2 pointer or a 3 pointer. I guess I'm happy I don't much care..... Tell ya one thing - there's not a buck on this page I'd give a pass to! 16x2=32.
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